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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 December - MASTER SOLVER'S CLUB
« Last post by Masse24 on Today at 10:47:15 PM »
Thinking about C:

I assume the problem is that the hand is just a bit short of what we would like for a game force..

I also assume that a bid of 2 !C over 1 !S is game-forcing. I could not find that statement browsing through the BWS stuff, but I think that's how they play it.

I want to consider bidding 2NT. Of course this is passable and possibly I end in 2NT with no !C Stop. Ok, but worse tings have happened. And maybe partner will not pass. If not, then I think that with three card !H support he should bid 3 !H, meaning that "Yes, I accept the game invitation and I have three hearts in case you are interested".  That is, a 3 !H bid is forcing, offering a choice of games. Yes, this means that it is possible I will be playing in 2NT when partner has a 4=3=4=2 shape but if he lacks the values to accept the invitation that might not be all that bad. We might well have 8 tricks ready to go (five heart tricks and three elsewhere) as soon as we get the lead and that might well be the limit of the hand playing in hearts. I am saying "might" here. So sure, things can go wrong. But things can go wrong if I make a game forcing 2 !C bid and things can go wrong if I decide to treat my strong five card suit as if it were six cards.

My guess is that of I do bid 2NT then about half the time partner will accept the invitation and, if he does not have three hearts, 3NT will be a reasonable spot. 


So I think a case can be made for 2NT, even if I am less than confident that 2NT will be my choice. Mostly I want to see if we all agree that over 2NT a partner, if he accepts the invit, should bid 3 !H when holding three hearts. It seems cleat that 3 !H should be forcing since, after I bid 2NT, partner has to be prepared for me to have only a four card heart suit.

Yes, I agree Ken. 3 !H must be forcing. It is merely an "I accept your invitation to game and oh, by-the-way, I have three hearts" bid.

BTW, I hate 2NT. Which is why I am leaning that way too.

I'm just happy my clubs are not weaker.
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Sleight of Hand / Re: One No Trump and then?
« Last post by kenberg on Today at 07:34:38 PM »
possibly 2 !D should be a natural non-forcing bid
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Sleight of Hand / Re: One No Trump and then?
« Last post by jcreech on Today at 04:34:57 PM »
I would assume that if you play that system is on over NT overcall carries over to interference .  The only exception would be, in your example, 2D transfer to 2H should not be normal (duh), so unless it has been specifically discussed, I would just treat as forcing, show me something more.
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Sleight of Hand / Re: One No Trump and then?
« Last post by kenberg on Today at 02:22:45 PM »
Any thoughts on me problem A?
Rho opens 1 !H. I overcall 1NT, Lho bids 2 !C.

What meaning would you attach to various calls by partner? 
Would X be penalty or Stayman ? (I assume that if I open 1NT and Lho comes in with 2 !C then X is Stayman).
Would 2 !H be a transfer? If not, what is it? As mentioned, the MSC problem had pard bidding 2 !S, not 2 !H, with 2 !S  presumed natural.

Undiscussed, I would take X as Stayman, I would take 2 !H as a transfer, and I would be wondering just what 2 !S is.  Possibly both 2 !H and 2 !S would show spades, with 2 !H being the stronger version. I will be interested in seeing what my Bridge World says when it gets here.
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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 December - MASTER SOLVER'S CLUB
« Last post by kenberg on Today at 01:30:08 PM »
Thinking about C:

I assume the problem is that the hand is just a bit short of what we would like for a game force..

I also assume that a bid of 2 !C over 1 !S is game-forcing. I could not find that statement browsing through the BWS stuff, but I think that's how they play it.

I want to consider bidding 2NT. Of course this is passable and possibly I end in 2NT with no !C Stop. Ok, but worse tings have happened. And maybe partner will not pass. If not, then I think that with three card !H support he should bid 3 !H, meaning that "Yes, I accept the game invitation and I have three hearts in case you are interested".  That is, a 3 !H bid is forcing, offering a choice of games. Yes, this means that it is possible I will be playing in 2NT when partner has a 4=3=4=2 shape but if he lacks the values to accept the invitation that might not be all that bad. We might well have 8 tricks ready to go (five heart tricks and three elsewhere) as soon as we get the lead and that might well be the limit of the hand playing in hearts. I am saying "might" here. So sure, things can go wrong. But things can go wrong if I make a game forcing 2 !C bid and things can go wrong if I decide to treat my strong five card suit as if it were six cards.

My guess is that of I do bid 2NT then about half the time partner will accept the invitation and, if he does not have three hearts, 3NT will be a reasonable spot. 


So I think a case can be made for 2NT, even if I am less than confident that 2NT will be my choice. Mostly I want to see if we all agree that over 2NT a partner, if he accepts the invit, should bid 3 !H when holding three hearts. It seems cleat that 3 !H should be forcing since, after I bid 2NT, partner has to be prepared for me to have only a four card heart suit.
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Sleight of Hand / Re: One No Trump and then?
« Last post by Masse24 on Yesterday at 06:46:39 PM »
Yes, the extra space is simply used for control bids. Obviously, not a whole lot of extra space is created, but any extra space is beneficial in slam auctions.
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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 December - MASTER SOLVER'S CLUB
« Last post by jcreech on Yesterday at 12:03:23 PM »

Problem F:>>  It's a balanced 12:::  Open your minor and rebid a notrump.  What's the problem??
Problem G:>>  Cue-bid-- Encourage partner in whichever suit he wants to be encouraged in.  Who has a plan "B"?
   These five are settled for me;  that leaves  [A]  [C] and  [H]  to fuss over for three weeks.  Come on  IAC  give me some wisdoms!
                 (why is it ALWAYS  ,  A,  C,   and  H   ?)


Ok - you didn't ask for help seeing other alternatives for the others, but

On F - it may be a balanced minimum, but one stopper in the two unbids might be more than some may want to take on.  Although my inclination is to bid 1NT, as you did, I have not entirely ruled out bidding 2C to show the solidity of the club suit or 2 !D to advertise good clubs, a diamond fit and concern for the majors in NT.  Also, I only have one card to be led into, and it may be a filler for partner than a tenace position.  So it may not be so automatic, there are other considerations.  Supposedly, a bridge problem is a hand that has three or more reasonable choices - I think it applies here.

On G - some may think of the cue bid as being too strong of an action, but the Moysian fit will work out fine with the singleton club in your hand, so bidding either of partner's responsive double suits is reasonable, as is rebidding or jump rebid to show a longer heart suit.  I still haven't developed an initial position on this hand, but I can see these as possible plan A, B, C, D ...

As for A, C and H - when I sit down and take a look at them for my initial thoughts, I will pass them on to IAC.  Until then, I wouldn't mind seeing some initial thoughts from others.
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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 December - MASTER SOLVER'S CLUB
« Last post by blubayou on Yesterday at 02:20:51 AM »
OK, there are FEW re-thinks  from the above'from the hip'votes..   but these five  I might as well send today to Bridge  World:
Problem B:>>  Overcall 2D,  then double any expected rebid--if any, is my only plan, but it sure ain't pretty.
Problem D:>>  Leaving in the double of one heart took two seconds,  and we will never look deeper.
Problem E:>>  The selling point for me on Michaels, and unusual notrump is that you can express a hand that, if it were only 5-4             distribution WOULD NOT BE WORTH A BID AT ALL, or would be worth one bid only, leaving one with that left-over feeling later.  That is how I feel about this one.  The 5 child hearts make it ugly,  but count me IN.
Problem F:>>  It's a balanced 12:::  Open your minor and rebid a notrump.  What's the problem??
Problem G:>>  Cue-bid-- Encourage partner in whichever suit he wants to be encouraged in.  Who has a plan "B"?
   These five are settled for me;  that leaves  [A]  [C] and  [H]  to fuss over for three weeks.  Come on  IAC  give me some wisdoms!
                 (why is it ALWAYS  ,  A,  C,   and  H   ?)
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Sleight of Hand / Re: One No Trump and then?
« Last post by blubayou on October 18, 2020, 11:39:34 PM »
Hi, Todd,   Your reversal of the meanings of 4C(RKC)   and 4D(point-count slam-try raise)  is hereby adopted,    But tell us  what the extra bid so saved --the chance for pard to bid diamonds over 4C-- is used for..Is it a diamond cue,  or something more esoteric?
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The IAC Café / Re: RIP Justin Lall
« Last post by Curls77 on October 17, 2020, 08:42:37 PM »
I missed this topic and will miss Justin for ever.
What a spirit, what a nice young man, such a loss 
My heart goes to his family.
:'( :'( :'( :'(
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