PROBLEM G:>> Any crappy response that includes Qxxxxx in hearts will have at least a PLAY for 4 !H , and many where the north trumps are all small. That lets out our 3 !H rebid. At the other end of possibilities, how about : void, Qxxxxx, Kxxx, Axx? or slightly better? In this case, our rebid needs to be "4 !D ", and off to the races. Yes--this wrongsides the transfer when north can only croak "4 !H ", but perhaps is club holding needs protection as much as our diamonds do. Perhaps.
As I write this, I notice that when his hearts are ACE-sixth, the rest of his hand will be useless trash, if he was intending to transfer and drop us in 3, and then I will be sorry, especially if there is a trump looser :(
..anyway ---Four !D ---
PROBLEM H:> What Jim said above ---Club Ace---
Quote from: blubayou link=topic=556.msg4341#msg4341 date=164132785
[bproblem G: I EXPECT that the #1 purpose for playing 3C or 3D or 3H as transfers is to be able to drop the 18-19 pt. hand in part score. (there are no WJS's to the3-level in BWS). No doubt the other purpose is to offer choices among one or two other suits or Notrump for game or even slam (funny to think of slamming by a sub-opener facing 18 balanced, but heyy!).[/b]
If we accept this purpose #1, are we willing to just accept the transfer and be left in 3H? If so then our answer in G is "3H"; if not, will the answer be 4H, or something else eg: 4Diamonds?
yes --> Four diamonds
Problem H: Play to shorten declarers trump that lurk over our partner's holding. If they will be playing a full-on crossruff, maybe having to start by club ruffs will ruin the timing a little--or a whole lot.
Club Ace
[/color][/i] !H , 1NT; 2NT, 3 !S " -- Can hardly wait for a quiz question using that little bugger!Impossible.
Hi, Ken: As you consider, factor in that 3C, 3D AND 3 HEARTS[!?!] are all transfers.. I KNOW it's in print where it ought to be--because seeing it astonished me. So 3D is a TRANSFER, not a check-back for 4 --or even three-- hearts. If you don't buy my ranting that her intention MAY be to bail in a (6/7-2 fit) partial, then via con Dios, compadre, but this is not a gadget letting us get away with raising the 5-11 1NT to two when 5=4 in the majors
Bulletin BWS section G--about halfway down : " One of a major — one notrump — two notrump is invitational; responder's continuation of three of a suit other than opener's is a transfer."
This appears to include "1 !H , 1NT; 2NT, 3 !S " -- Can hardly wait for a quiz question using that little bugger!
A couple of other confusing points from this month.
On H the auction went
1 !S 1NT
2 !H 3 !H
4 !D 4 !H
What is 4 !D? Ok, back up to what was 3 !H? After 1 !S - 1NT - 2 !H it could be that NS have a !H fit, n has an 11 count, S has a 17 count. Or 18 count. It also could be that N has a 6 count and S has a 12 count.And anywhere in-between. Maybe we clearly want to play in 4 !H, maybe we clearly don't, and maybe we need 3 !H to be invitational with, say, a 10 count.
Now if 3 !h is invitational, what is 4 !D? Is S saying "Well, 2 !H was passable, and 3 !H was invitational, but now that we have found this fit let's bid a slam"? Possible, but another case of not likely. But I suppose that's what it was.
| NAME | BW-SCORE | RANK | MPs |
| Masse24 | 720 | 1 | 30 |
| WackoJack | 670 | 2 | 15 |
| BabsG | 650 | 3 | 10 |
| BluBayou | 650 | 3 | 10 |
Also participating this month were: CCR3, Duffer66, FleuretteD, Hoki, JCreech, KenBerg, MsPhola, Peuco, VeeRee, VeredK, YleeXotee. Congratulations to all! |
Todd - only three had the "guts" as you call it. To me, the bid was way too far into the gray area, so I would not make the bid at the table, and consequently was unwilling to make the call in the contest. Clearly, the moderator agreed with the choice and interpretation, and could justify the 100 on the large proportion of the Panel wanting to make a move toward slam. Given all of that, I do not understand why 4 !H would get the 2nd place 90 other than it was the plurality choice (deity forbid that 5 votes ever made up a MSC plurality). Under the logic that dictated 4 !S deserved the 100, then surely the same logic would declare that 4 !H is a relative give-up and deserved less than 90. But then, if looking for consistency, I am reminded that MSC is not the place to look.
On "D," I was in the 80% of solvers who chose either 3 !C or Pass. Almost a coin flip and, in the end, I chose the lower scoring option of Pass, figuring I could not get hurt too badly most of the time. Other calls I barely glanced at. The top scoring 2 !H was my 5th choice.
Oh well. :-[