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Get Competitive! => IAC Pairs Ladder => Topic started by: learning4 on October 06, 2019, 07:44:15 PM

Title: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: learning4 on October 06, 2019, 07:44:15 PM: Will pairs ladder ever start again?
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: Curls77 on October 07, 2019, 05:40:10 PM: Joe and Walid are looking at it, I will poke on them :)
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: ian84 on December 15, 2019, 03:01:01 PM: How did the poking go?

You may recall that I developed an Excel spreadsheet a few years ago which could, I believe, have been used to support the pairs ladder, and been accessible to the members via Dropbox. Would you like me to dig it out from the archives and get it tested out?
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: Curls77 on December 16, 2019, 12:08:08 PM: Poking had no results at all ;)
But now it is being done by Todd (Masse24), we hope have it on for test run just after holiday season.
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: Masse24 on January 03, 2020, 07:56:56 PM: We are ready for a BETA test.

Who is interested in a PAIRS LADDER?

Message me and I will message you privately with instructions on how you can help test it.
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: ian84 on January 06, 2020, 12:55:26 PM: Count me in on the beta testing Todd
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: learning4 on April 25, 2020, 05:45:47 PM: anything new on the pairs ladders?
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: Curls77 on April 28, 2020, 10:00:40 AM: Quote from: Masse24 on January 03, 2020, 07:56:56 PM
We are ready for a BETA test.

Message me and I will message you privately with instructions on how you can help test it.
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: palych on January 29, 2023, 09:51:38 PM: How about using this? https://apex.oracle.com/pls/apex/r/palych/iac/
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: Masse24 on January 30, 2023, 01:13:12 AM: Quote from: palych on January 29, 2023, 09:51:38 PM
How about using this? https://apex.oracle.com/pls/apex/r/palych/iac/

Nice Work.

But this measures individuals, not pairs. Probably a necessary evil since the whole concept of a pairs ladder seems to have died. It at least makes use of existing IAC tournaments.

One comment though: it puts a lot of emphasis on attendance. Clearly those who participate in the most tournaments will accumulate the most . . . "points." Sort of like the ACBL, which is doles out attendance prizes in the form of Masterpoints. Can you create a weighted average with a certain minimum number of tournaments required before it kicks in? That would seem to be a more accurate reflection of performance.

Again, Nice Work!
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: palych on February 04, 2023, 03:22:57 PM: Sure I can :), what could be a min number of trns? I can add another page for pairs, but this info is there already (kinda :) , click on number of trns played, it will show stats by partners).

Also I would suggest a change in a way points are assigned as it is way easier to get points in small trn right now...
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: palych on February 04, 2023, 04:42:55 PM: Added pairs standing for 2022 :)
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: palych on February 04, 2023, 05:09:35 PM: Added Year to date and previous month for pairs. Looks like monthly view is not so useful...
Title: Re: will pairs ladder ever start again?
Post by: palych on February 13, 2023, 08:52:25 PM: Quote from: Masse24 on January 30, 2023, 01:13:12 AM
.... Can you create a weighted average with a certain minimum number of tournaments required before it kicks in? That would seem to be a more accurate reflection of performance.

This is quite questionable too I guess. If someone only plays Monday's Dare tournaments (or any other with low number of pairs) the average would be way higher... to solve this we need variable points system...