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Sleight of Hand / Re: For those (like me) with a weird sense of humor.
« on: February 01, 2020, 09:55:49 PM »
I'll go with everything Jim wrote. But I lead the !C Q (for no particular reason).

As far as your "weird" sense of humor, Ken, was it because the double asked you to lead partner's void--which just happens to be the trump suit?  :o

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 March - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 25, 2020, 04:33:47 PM »
Speculation on hand A.

So I think I am liking the 3 !C call. It certainly could go wrong, but it could also go right.

I like 3 !C too.

But I also like 3 !H. But what does it mean? I have not taken a deep dive into BWS2017 to see if this is mentioned. I assume, like 3 !C, it shows support. Even if not specifically mentioned in BWS, does it imply more support? Four, rather than three cards? Maybe, but I don't know.

It certainly pushes us (and them?) up a level. The question is, how high do I wish to compete?

Plenty of time left to look into it.

[Added] Upon further reflection, I think if I were going to contemplate a call that forces to the 4-level, it would be 3 !S (fit jump?) to get my entire hand off my chest at once. Yes, it's flawed, being a spade short. And yes, it's risky vulnerable. Just ruminating at this point.  ???


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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 March - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 24, 2020, 08:16:25 PM »
PROBLEM B: 3NT. In my opinion, this is a hand valuation problem. How strong am I?

Although BWS2017 does not provide detailed information as to its preferred method of follow-ups employing 3NT as a “mild slam try,” it does provide this explanation:

Mild and Serious Slam-Tries: When an eight-plus-card major-suit fit has been established, neither partner has made a natural two-notrump bid, and the auction is forcing to game, a nonjump bid of three notrump is a mild slam-try, and a control-bid or a long-suit indicator is a strong slam-try.”

One advantage of using either Serious 3NT or Frivolous 3NT is having the ability to show a hand that is more than a complete garbage minimum, but less than a hand with the extras necessary to make a hard drive to slam. A hand that a "fast arrival" jump (which I abhor) might lose.

Like this hand.

We have a double fit. My trumps are great. Partner has four or fewer cards in the minors, so I’ll have little in the way of wasted values. But I’m flat. And I hate my xxx in spades. All of that together looks like a hand willing to cooperate in a slam move if partner has extras. But I want to send the message that I do not have the “stuff” to make the move myself.

3NT accomplishes this.

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / 2020 March - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 21, 2020, 02:24:56 AM »
MARCH 2020 MSC

Deadline: February 10 at 9:00 a.m. (ET)

Submit your March responses here: The Bridge World - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB

BWS 2017 System: BWS 2017
BWS 2017 POLLS, CHANGES AND ADDITIONS: BWS 2017 - Polls, Changes, and Additions
  • Bridge World Standard 2017 (BWS or BWS2017) is effective beginning with the January 2017 Master Solvers' Club problems. This page shows (1) the results of the panelist polls that were used to adjust the system; and (2) the changes in and the additions to Bridge World Standard 2001 (BWS2001) that were made.
    In the listings of the questions and answers, an asterisk indicates the BWS2001 agreement; the proportion of the expert votes for each item, rounded to the nearest percent, is shown in brackets.


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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 February - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 21, 2020, 12:01:07 AM »
February Solutions: Jeff Rubens was the director.

A handful of the panel's comments:



PROBLEM A: 3 !C . A majority. Although there was a handful of both 2 !S and 3 !S bidders (with the more aggressive 3 !S the more popular choice), the descriptive 3 !C was the clear winner. Several who chose something other than 3 !C mentioned the three small in the opponent’s suit as a negative:

•   Curtis Cheek: “Double. Those diamonds scare me.”
•   Ira Chorush: “Double. Obviously I would rather have the red suits reversed.”
•   Jill Meyers: “2 !S. As holding three low diamonds is a huge drawback, I will stay at the two level.”
•   Kleinman: “2 !S. The death holding in diamonds deters me . . . .
•   BluBayou: “2 !S. Not stretching to jump with diamond xxx.”

Rubens nailed it with, “It is true that South is frustrated because he would like to bid both spades and clubs.” Yup.

Choosing the more aggressive path:
•   Phillip Alder: “3 !C. Vulnerable at IMPs, I am pushing for game, despite the obvious diamond danger.”
•   MarilynLi: “3 !C. It shows my shape and strength.”
•   Fleisher & Friesner: “3 !C. Keeps both suits in the picture. Two spades would be too conservative with this much playing strength.”



PROBLEM B: 3 !C . The game-force. A plurality choice (not quite gaining a majority), as MSC problems often are. That’s why they are good problems! Shockingly, not one of our participants chose 3 !C.

Kamil & Sherman nailed it with: “3 !C. Just too strong for 3 !D, which would be somewhat misdirected with the outside controls. Bidding two spades might lead to fighting off partner’s spade continuations forever. A jump in notrump would be way out. The imperfect phony jump-shift is the least of evils.”

Kleinman not unexpectedly took a contrary view with, “Three diamonds. Three clubs might produce a tangled web.”
Michael Rosenberg (who also chose 3 !D) was the lone voice in the wilderness who mentioned 1 !S stating, “I have some positive feeling about one spade.” So I guess Jim, Ken and I were not completely lost!



PROBLEM C: (a3) 1 !C | 2 !H . Another majority, so this was apparently not as difficult as it might be. This was also reflected in the unanimity of our IAC participants, who all voted for this choice.

•   Kitty & Steve Cooper: “We hate distorting our distribution.”
•   Bart Bramley: “Color me old-fashioned. A reverse shows four hearts, longer clubs, and extra values. No, I don’t like having clubs this weak when I reverse, but all other plans misdescribe much worse.”
Similarly . . . 
•   JCreech: “I will not distort my shape.”
•   GG_Bridge: “Partner could still have 4 hearts, and 1NT understates my hand, 2NT overstates.”
•   DickHy: “Seems slightly less bad than the others.”



PROBLEM D: 2 !C . Wow, another majority! Rubens begins with some of his thoughts: “The majority’s choice, two club, risks preempting hearts, but it also preempts spades. The latter might be good if it is partner preempted, but what if it is the opponents? 
Opting not to pass . . .

•   DickHy: “2 !C. Bidding 2C makes N’s life easier defending.”
•   MarilynLi: “2 !C. I feel this is the only option if choose to make a bid.”
•   JCreech: “2 !C. Can’t double, don’t want to treat this as a trap pass, and too strong to ignore.”
•   Boye Brogeland: “2 !C. I am not a big believer in overcalling in a four-card suit with a good hand, and I prefer pass, hoping to be able to make a takeout double of spades, to overcalling one heart.

Of the 2NT bidders, Kleinman chooses to slide the jack of diamonds into his heart suit, thereby completing the 5-5 shape he is promising.


PROBLEM E: 2 !H . Another majority. This boiled down to a binary choice. Either bid the moth-eaten heart suit, a card short of expected length, or pass and hope partner’s diamond suit is not xxx. 

Among the 2 !H bidders:
•   MarilynLi: “2 !H. I don't want to pass risking partner having 3 cards D and I feel with 9 hcp I owe my partner a bid here.”
•   John Strauch: “2 !H. Opener will hold three hearts 41 percent of the time, two hearts 32 percent, one heart 25 percent, no hearts 2 percent.” [I’ll take your word for it, John!] Least of evils.”
•   Kamil and Sherman: “2 !H. Ugh!

In discussing Roger Lee’s dismissal of passing the 2 !D rebid, there was an interesting point made by Jeff Rubens: “Opener makes that [2 !D] rebid on 5=3=3=2 only with a hand too weak to open one notrump and too strong to pass the one-notrump response—a very narrow band of strength.”  True, since in BWS the “forcing notrump” is only semi-forcing.


PROBLEM F: 2 !S. Well done BabsG and BluBayou!
Not a majority. And both Pass and 2NT garnered several votes, with several other choices scoring, but with little support.

•   The Coopers: “2 !S. We bid our spade stopper, show a good hand, and invite partner to do something intelligent. What could go wrong?”
•   BabsG, not known for her brevity, explained her winning choice of 2 !S with, "  ".
•   DickHy, on his way to choosing 2 !H asked, “Just how strong is North’s hand?” This was parroted by Jeff Rubens in explaining the range of Notrump bids, from 3NT to 1NT. Rubens pointed out that, “When there are votes for natural bids of one, two, and three notrump, we can deduce that there is uncertainty about the strength shown by partner . . . . How strong is ‘strong’?” Jim, too, queried, “I’m not sure what BWS considers to be “a strong hand” on this auction, so I will just invite.”


PROBLEM G: Double! Another majority!

•   JCreech: “Dbl  Another bid I am not happy with, but I do have the requisite !H shortness.  If partner does not have a penalty pass, perhaps there will be a cue bid and I will show my spade stop, or enough diamonds that I will not be displeased that I passed.  Double is more flexible than rebidding my clubs, or cue bidding hearts; let’s bring partner into the discussion.”
That sums it up nicely. This was chosen by very few of our IAC participants, with only DrAculea and BluBayou joining Jim. Pretty much echoing those thoughts were:
•   The Coopers: “Double. We hope partner has a heart stack, but if he doesn’t we have plenty of extras. Pard knows we prefer clubs to diamonds, so he shouldn’t go wrong.
•   Fleisher & Friesner: “Double. Strong hand, short in hearts. Partner will not go out of his way to bid diamonds without a lot of them.” (A sentiment offered by sever others.)


PROBLEM H: !H 7. Like most lead problems this one had many answers. Several could work. The !H 9 socred 90, outpacing the !S T since, in combination with the !H 7 there were 13 who chose a heart lead, while only 8 chose a spade. This is logical and I agree with the scoring.

•   Boye Brogeland, who also chose the !H 7 stated, “When the opponents (apparently) have bid comfortably to a slam, and the suits seem to be breaking well for them, I like to lead aggressively.”
•   Kit Woolsey: “Spade Ten. Any lead could cost; this looks safest.”
•   David Berkowitz: “Spade Ten. Looking for safety. At least the spade ten won’t kill partner’s jack-low-low-low.”
My thinking was in line with both Kit and David, so I’ll settle for that.



That’s all folks. Still time to opine----or complain about the MSC panel’s opinions. We welcome the conversation!

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IAC Tourneys / Re: What is partner showing?
« on: January 17, 2020, 01:52:20 PM »
I'm passing. Partner thinks he has a play for 3NT.

I'm not sure what partner has, though I guess 5=4 in the minors, maybe 5=3.  My delayed diamond support, presumably showing four, makes partner think they run. So I guess they are headed by AKQ? Club suit headed by AJ. . . maybe?

Partner's spade stopper is presumably the king? Wow, what is the opp bidding on, some sort of 7=5 freak to the Jack?

I want to see partner's hand --- should be interesting!  :o

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IAC Tourneys / Re: Would you want to be in this slam?
« on: January 16, 2020, 06:27:12 PM »
Once the !S A is led, then I like my chances, though maybe a little less than 50% on Todd's line, maybe a bit higher if I lead small to the Q first planning to finesse the T next.

I stand corrected. My assessment was shortsighted as to my chances for this slam. I now do not want to be in this slam.

That said, as Jim states above, I like [love] my chances once the !S A is led (how nice of the opps to be so helpful!).

The jump to 4 !C is an interesting choice and one I had not considered. It would of course need to be discussed and the parameters of that jump agreed to. For me that bid means something just slightly different; a hand with a "source of tricks" in the jump suit, that wants to be in game, but with no controls in the other two suits. What Mike Lawrence suggests in his 2/1 book (if I remember correctly). I think opener's second bid could be one of a few viable choices and is quite interesting. I'll post to Bridgewinners. 

Oh . . . almost an afterthought but it occurred to me earlier, I think the auction to the slam can be quite informative here and the lead would be influenced accordingly. Depending on the meaning of 3 !S by opener, or 4 !C by opener, or 4 !H by opener . . . don't all of those demand a !D lead? Maybe not.


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IAC Tourneys / Re: Would you want to be in this slam?
« on: January 16, 2020, 02:22:01 PM »
You did not ask about the auction, but I don't agree with it.

Neither did I when I saw it. 3 !H is too timid.

I would bid 4 !H , or if feeling especially frisky, make a stronger slam move with 3 !S .

So, either:
1. 1 !C - (2 !S) - X - (P)
    4 !H -   (P)   - ??

or

2. 1 !C - (2 !S) -   X - (P)
    3 !S -   (P)    -  3NT - (P)
    4 !H -   (P)    -  ??           

But I think I'm still okay with being in the slam. But maybe not. If morning coffee is a requirement, I've not had any, so this is a "no-caffeine" assessment.

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IAC Tourneys / Re: Would you want to be in this slam?
« on: January 14, 2020, 11:37:03 PM »
Yes, I am fine with being in this slam.

I ruff trick one (obviously) since bringing in the trump suit for no losers is close to zero chance. I now have two spade winners to jettison my losing diamond. The club suit is my source of tricks.

We have a lot of clubs, so I'm very worried about a ruff. That influences how I play the trump suit, which is to lay down the Ace, then low toward dummy's Queen. This is the moment of truth. I can duck or I can cover whatever LHO plays. It's a guess.

Should be a bit better than 50% I think.

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 February - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 11, 2020, 02:52:12 AM »
For me, there is usually one problem that sticks out as a "What was I thinking?" once the answers are provided.

Mine this month is problem B, where in a fit of I don't know what, I chose to be "cutesy" with a non-forcing rebid of 1 !S . It was a lame attempt to "outsmart" the smart guys on the MSC panel. In that last two years of participating in the MSC I've pulled a cutesy bid three times. All ended miserably.

My belated New Year's resolution is . . . no more cutesy for me!  ;)

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 February - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 10, 2020, 06:09:43 PM »
Well done DrAculea who made The Bridge World MSC Honor Roll this month!

NAMEBW-SCORERANKMPs
DrAculea     690   1   30
Jcreech     660   2   15
BabsG     620   3   10
MarilynLi     620   3   10
Masse24     620   3   10
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Also participating and receiving 1 Monster Point are (alphabetically): BluBayou, ccr3, Curls77, DickHy, GGbridge, Hoki, KenBerg, MsPhola, WackoJack

We had a great turnout! Hopefully we can build on this in the coming months!

Commentary is still welcome for this set.  :) There were some interesting problems, solutions, and choices by our members.

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 February - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 10, 2020, 01:30:33 AM »
SOLUTIONS FOR:
Todd Holes
Glen Ellyn IL
U.S.A.

PROBLEM A: 3 Clubs
PROBLEM B: 1 Spade
PROBLEM C: (a3)
PROBLEM D: 2 Clubs
PROBLEM E: 2 Hearts
PROBLEM F: 2 Notrump
PROBLEM G: 3 Clubs
PROBLEM H: Spade 10

Very hard. Again.

I feel good about one. Not so good about the other seven. Oh oh.

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 February - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 09, 2020, 06:45:33 PM »
This agreement can be useful. In the case at hand, I have a stiff heart so there is a fair chance partner  has six. He might not, but he very well could. If he does, then he lacked the strength to bid the invitational 3H on the first round.

I am pretty sure that BWS does not include Bergen raises. Not positive, but pretty sure. And even pairs who do play Bergen don't include 1S-3H as some sort of spade raise as far as I know.

And I believe BWS plays 1M-3m in the same way. Long m, invitational values.

I see. I was not reading into it what you did not say, or more specifically what was not bid --- 3 !H:-[

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 February - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 09, 2020, 05:19:16 PM »

PROBLEM A: 3 Clubs
This seems reasonable. I suppose partner has long hearts and too little strength to do otherwise. Since, after 1M, BWS says " a jump-shift to three of an underranking suit is invitational;" I suppose he does not have much. Still, 3C seems right.


I think maybe you misunderstand this jump-shift reference? I believe they are referring to a Bergenesque sequence? Something like:

1 !H - (P) - 3 !C or
1 !S - (P) - 3 !D

Or I am misunderstanding your post.

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2020 February - MASTER SOLVERS CLUB
« on: January 09, 2020, 03:08:47 PM »
F.   2H.  Just how strong is N’s hand??

Exactly!

Jim also asked this question, as I think we all did when reading the helpful BWS note.

Attempting to enlighten myself I went searching through BWS2017, but found only this: "A low-level delayed double by lurker after the opponents have bid three suits shows strength with length in the suit of the opening bid."

So not much help. Fortunately the MSC panel will be working under the same constraints. Except that they are world class, and have probably orchestrated such a double in their lifetimes. Me? Never. At least as far as I can recall. So it's a guess.

But . . .

I cannot imagine partner perpetrating such a call with a bunch of diamonds and 9 or 10 HCP. With that strength I don't see the need for it. So I will attribute partner with (and this is a bit of guesswork) an opening hand--or very close to it. Maybe a minimum of 11 or 12 HCP? Does that make sense? Hope so cuz that's my thinking.

Do I Pass . . . or stick with my first instinct and try 2NT?

This one is hard.



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