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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2022 June MSC
« on: May 02, 2022, 12:33:57 PM »
SOLVER: Ken Berg
       
Your Solutions for the June 2022 Contest
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PROBLEM A: Pass                              70
PROBLEM B: 3 Spades                       30
PROBLEM C: Pass                            100
PROBLEM D: Double                          40
PROBLEM E: 2 Notrump                   100
PROBLEM F: 2 Spades                       70           
PROBLEM G: 5 Diamonds                    0
PROBLEM H: Heart 10                       40


                                                     450

Win some lose some. I will now pass the above congratulations on to others.




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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2022 June MSC
« on: May 02, 2022, 01:09:53 AM »
Best wishes to you Todd.
I'm having some medical issues myself, I know the fog you are speaking of. It can get frustrating.

Best wishes to us all on this nice day of the first of May.  Well, a bit of rain. But nice rain.

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2022 June MSC
« on: April 28, 2022, 01:56:19 PM »
SOLVER: Ken Berg
         
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PROBLEM A: Pass
PROBLEM B: 3 Spades
PROBLEM C: Pass
PROBLEM D: Double
PROBLEM E: 2 Notrump
PROBLEM F: 2 Spades
PROBLEM G: 5 Diamonds
PROBLEM H: Heart 10

 

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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2022 June MSC
« on: April 28, 2022, 01:45:05 PM »
Jack, mostly (not completely) I agree with your guesses.  The problem is that it really does come down to guessing. If there are no further agreements then there are no further agreements. Since it is hard to imagine a 1NT response that is better suited for playing in 5 !D opposite a very shapely opening bid, and since it is hard to imagine why pard would bid this way if he did not regard 5 !D as at least a possible final contract, I figure I'll just bid 5 !D. I can imagine a hand where 6 !D comes in, but with "no further agreements" I will just forget about it.

If we were to set out agreements then the first thing is to decide whether 2NT is or is not Leb. After 1m-1NT (6-10, not 7-10)-2M I think 2NT is often, and perhaps best, played as natural. A modest hand that is not enthusiastic about anything. Opener can pass, or opener can rebid 3m and I'll pass.

But a big purpose for Leb is to give responder, when he wants to play in !D, to sign off in 3 !D, invite going on in !D, and force to game showing !D. With your agreements, 3 !D can be a !D fit with absolutely minimal values, it just says "no, I am not rebidding a passable 2NT if you have all those !D,and 4 !D is forcing. I think this mighty be the right choice of agreements but does partner think so?

Now a quote from BWS

"  In response to one diamond: two clubs is forcing to game; three clubs is invitational. A one-notrump response shows 6-10 points."

So we have to include the possibility that responder, after 1 !D -1NT - 2 !H wants to bid 3 !D with 6 highs since he might well want to do this with too few !D to bid 3 !D over 1 !D. Also 1 !D - 1NT precludes a hand such as Qxx/xx/Qxx/KQJxxx since with that hand it would go 1 !D - 3 !C. Probably it would go that way with Qxx/xx/Jxx/KQJxxx. This makes it unlikely that, after 1 !D - 1NT - 2 !H, responder will want to invite game in !C. Not impossible, but pretty unlikely. Which, I suppose, means that 4 !C could show a good hand with a !D fit and a !C control. 

But I am not betting on what 4 !C would show.

In a sense, this problem is a good problem for IAC, or more generally for the typical player. Currently, I have no partner with whom I have discussed 1 !D - 1NT - 2 !H and, apparently, even if we have agreed to play BWS, we have not really discussed this auction (so long !D, something inn !H, but beyond that?). It's hardly unusual for me to say "I am not really sure just what would mean what here and I doubt partner is either so I think I will just make a guess. Bidding 5 !D will no doubt be taken as meaning I am up for playing in 5 !D".


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IAC & Master Solvers Club / Re: 2022 June MSC
« on: April 28, 2022, 12:52:05 AM »
My thoughts on G: "*BWS: forcing for one round (no further agreements)"
Ok, but surely this must be a hand that opener thinks might play in 5 !D after my 1NT bid. Well, it's hard to imagine a 1NT response that is more suitable for 5 !D.

So I am thinking to bid 5 !D. If I were sure 4 !D were forcing, and maybe it should be, I might do that. But 6 !D seems optimistic so with no agreements, just a general idea that surely it shows a hand that opener thinks might belong in 5 !D, I'll just bid 5 !D.

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Sleight of Hand / Re: How would you bid this playing 2/1
« on: April 24, 2022, 12:44:21 PM »
Perhaps. I note your use of the plural "suits". If he can bring in clubs and spade losing either 1 spade and no clubs or 1 club and no spades then yep, a slam is there.
So otherwise put, 5 !S says  "11 tricks for sure, absent some weird distribution, and 12 should be there if we can bring in the blacks with the loss of 1 trick".

One way to look at this: If we are going to be in slam on 30 highs we had better have some shape. Well, here we have shape, lots of shape, but the N shape and the S shape aren't working well together. So pessimism is warranted. Surely we do not want to play this in clubs, and if we play it in spades we might lose 0 or 1 or 2 spades and we will lose 1 club. Maybe the best shot would be 6 !D played by S since that eliminated the problem of a spade lead at T1, but there is no way to arrange that.

Some hands favor the optimists, some, like this one, favor the pessimists. Here they can ope 5 !S comes in. Maybe it does. Maybe not.

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Sleight of Hand / Re: How would you bid this playing 2/1
« on: April 24, 2022, 01:23:09 AM »
And a quick question about the original bidding, what was the thinking with the 5 !S call?
I gather it was natural, pard passed the 5 !S, but I don't see the purpose.

If the answer to this is not known, that's fine, I am just curious.

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Sleight of Hand / Re: How would you bid this playing 2/1
« on: April 22, 2022, 02:12:18 PM »
Note to Curls77: 

I have also posted the hand to BridgeWinners.com.  The url is https://bridgewinners.com/article/view/21-hand-what-are-your-thoughts-about-the-auction/.  If you pass the link to Cedar, he can view the poll and comments there as well.  He may have to join to view the poll results, but joining is free.

The poll might need fixing. I checked yes to Q1 and then when I checked yes to 2A the mark on 1A goes away. So it doesn't accept "one answer within each question number" it just accepts one answer overall.

Also questions 1 and 4, as stated, are not really suited for a poll. Eg Q1 is really 2 questions. If someone thinks S should bid 3 !C but does not think that it shows extras, should he answer yes or no? And Q4 is "What do you think..." I suppose he can answer no if he does not like the auction presented, but which part doesn't he like?

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Sleight of Hand / Re: How would you bid this playing 2/1
« on: April 22, 2022, 01:34:45 PM »
I recall advice, I am pretty sure it was from Kantar, that with 5-5 in the blacks you should open 1 !C if minimal or if strong and open 1 !S if in between. Maybe so. The problem is that on many hands, not this one, the opponents will be barging in when you open 1 !C with a weak 5-5.

I do sometimes open 1 !C when 5-5 in the blacks. It's not one of those things where I have any agreements with partners, I do it when I think it might work out, and I can imagine doing it here. I didn't venture into this possibility here, some would open 1 !C, some would open 1 !S, but that choice is a broad issue going beyond this hand. Here the opponents have the !S K, the !H J, the !D Q and the !C A so while maybe they come in over 1 !C, probably they don't. Just looking at the S hand, the expectation would be that often they will.
I am trying to say that whether to open 1 !C is a whole different issue from how the auction should go after a 1 !S opening.

I think we are all pretty much on the same page.   N has a good hand but the hands don't fit well so how does he keep slam options open without going overboard? The answer is "I don't really know" and I suspect others would say the same. Some things are a matter of style (or lack of style maybe). After 1 !S - 2 !D - 3 !C - 3 !D I think, with the S hand, I would bid 3 !S. I would intend this as "Hey buddy, I can probably play this in 4 !S if you have Kx." But others might bid 4 !D over 3 !D. "Hey buddy, you want to play in diamonds, ok, we play in diamonds". And others would bid 3 !H over 3 !D. "Hey buddy, I have no idea where we should play this, what do you think".



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Sleight of Hand / Re: How would you bid this playing 2/1
« on: April 22, 2022, 01:04:39 AM »
The auction will start 1 !S - 2 !D, no doubt about that. Now for the S rebid. If I had been dealt

A Q J x x
x
x x
K J x x x

I would have opened the bidding.
Well, KQJxx is a lot better than KJxxx.
It's not just 2 more highs, it is 2 well placed highs.
So 1 !S - 2 !D - 3 !C seens right

Now to the N hand . Despite all the highs, the hands are not fitting well. If we are thinking of slam, where? Partner has a lot of black cards. If partner has the !D Q things are looking up but why should he have that? And, looking for the moment at both hands even of we change !D xx in the S hand to !D Qx , slam is hardly a certainty on a spade lead.

I am inclined, as N, to bid 3 !D over 3 !C. If S now raises !D that will make me happy. If he bids 3 !S I might well settle for 3NT.  Partner does not have to pass 3NT but with the hand he has, I imagine he will. Ne has already announced a lot of black cards, I have announced some good diamonds, but nobody has said "I can see where 12 tricks are likely to come from".

It is not impossible for 6 !D to make, but it needs a lot.

N has a lot in the reds, S in the blacks, who is going to set up what suit? Our only 8 card fit is in !D, we need the Q. Time to get out. Let's just get 9 tricks through brute force.

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The IAC Café / Re: How often do Conventions come up?
« on: April 21, 2022, 01:31:26 PM »
Ken, Jim,

I'm pleased these figures were interesting.

The missing 1N responses were either pass, 2N or 3N - pretty much evenly split between the three.  With hindsight, I wished I'd separated the 2 !D openers from the 2M openers.  From time to time I think about alternatives for 2 !D and it would have been useful to see how often a weak 2 !D came up - I tend to use it less than a weak 2M, especially if I have 3c M suit (which I tend not to worry so much about when opening 2M - rightly or wrongly).  I was interested in your thoughts about alternatives for a 2 !D opener.

I didn't include Drury.  I think intermediate players don't naturally think of opening light in 3rd or 4th (that's true of me, certainly).  Whereas on vugraph, for example, these light openers are ten-a-penny (and not just 3rd and 4th!), and they seem to work well.  Of course, I guess one would have to compare the outcome of hands with and without light openers/Drury which is more involved than just counting frequencies.

I have been busy lately so I did not read your stats closely enough. I just looked at the responses t 1NT and thought "I guess the rest are passes, that's a lot of passes". Sure. you listed the conventional responses so the unlisted ones are either passes or raises. Maybe a third are passes. Ok got it.

To go on a bit more, it could lead to a nu ber of things. Lebensohl, for example.  You note 6 uses of Leb. That's 6 uses in 1081 hands and it highlights a problem. Lebensohl after 1NT-interference needs discussion and the infrequency means people think "really, do we have to?' and even if they discuss it they have to remember what conclusion they came to.

For example, 1NT-(2 !H) showing !H. OK Let's say 1NT - (2 !H) -3NT denies a !H stop so, if we want to bid 3NT with a !H stop we go through Leb. But suppose the opponents are playing DONT, so 1NT - (2 !H) shows both !H and !S. What shows what stop, what denies what stop?  With most pards I just play that when the suit they bid I either the suit that they have or one of the suits that they have then Leb is on and refers to the suit they bid. The logic is that it just doesn't come up often enough to worry about. But surely we could do better. For example, one could play that an immediate 3NT denies stops in either major,, going through Leb and then 3NT shows stops in both majors, and bidding 2NT Leb and then, over 3 !C, bidding 3M shows a stop in M and denies a stop in OM. I play this with no one. And of course we ought to discuss what 2 !S means over a DONT 2 !H.  And so on and so on.

And all that is just after a DONT 2 !H.

It's just a fact of life that we, or at least I, play conventions that we have not discussed as thoroughly as we should. I think that in the second edition of Steve Robinson's book Washington Standard there is a table of what means what for 3rd hand after various conventional overcalls of a 1NT opening. I have never played all those meanings with anyone.

There is an old, probably apocryphal, story that after Goren lectured to an audience a man came up to him and said "I agree with you Mr. Goren, when a man bids clubs, a man ought to have clubs, as God intended".  Sometimes I long for the good old days.

But I expect, or at least I hope, to make it to Donna's session today, where we will discuss this and that meaning of this and that convention.  A sense of humor, maybe a sense of the absurd, can be useful.  I enjoy it.


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The IAC Café / Re: How often do Conventions come up?
« on: April 18, 2022, 01:41:52 PM »
The numbers are interesting.

I found the responses to 1NT a bit surprising. There are 140 1NT openings and 60 responses listed. I assume that the other 80 times the response was Pass. That's more often than I would have expected but I have never thought that much about it.

One of my thoughts about conventions is "what is gained, what is lost?" And then "How often does it matter".

Example: In the 1081 hands there were 324 1M openers, that's quite a few. And then 23 Bergen responses. But there are other uses for 1M-3m if not playing Bergen.

At a more primitive level, I will be playing in an hour or so with someone who does not play 2/1, it's more like SAYC. We will be playing 16 boards and from what I have seen it seldom matters that we are not playing 2/1. It can affect the auction and, of course, sometimes alters the final contract but not really very often. somewhere I have some comments from Mike Lawrence about that. As I recall ML thinks that playing 2/1 is something of a disadvantage in partscore auctions, is usually inconsequential in game hand auctions, and is very useful in slam auctions.

The guy I am about to play with also likes Flannery so we play it. My main objection to Flannery is that I think the weak 2 !d call is very useful when it comes up. You mention 68 weak 2 bids so I suppose about 33 were weak 2 !D bids. We would lose those. We get Flannery and yeah, I guess it has its uses, but I like having the weak 2 !D available.

Anyway, the results are interesting.



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Suprize!  I have no wisdom about which way is best to rescue our doubled !NT overcall.   But Ken brought up in the 3rd reply here.."If you decide or assume our bids are transfers,  what does "transferring into opener's major" mean?"
  That's easy!  It's a complete 3-suiter!  If not running from a double, then it's a serious hand, and if running rom a double--let the good times roll. Wouldn' want to be left with NO way to "cue-bid"  would we?

Here is one possible approach after (1 !H) - 1NT - (X) - ?
4th and might have four spades, 4th hand might have five or more spades. So 2 !H could be a transfer to spades, 2 !D ould be Stayman. presumably Stayman with a back-up plan. If second hand lacks four spades then he bids 2 !H over 2 !D and we move on to the back-up plan. And, at times, 2nd hand might decide that !s AQx is enough and bid 2 !S over 2 !D. Not great, but they are looking for an exit and this might be best.

I have some vague memory of seeing such a thing written down somewhere but it's very vague.

On Jack's original post, after (1 !C) - 1NT - (X) - ?, he points out that 4th hand might want to run to 2 !D. Indeed he might. So then 2 !D perhaps should be natural. And then  !H should be natural.
That certainly has merit.   

The general problem is that unless you are a long-term partnership, situations arise that have not been discussed. What to do? Have a disaster is a common answer.





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There are a lot of related situations. For example, suppose that your left hand opponent opens 1 !H, your partner bids a natural 1NT and your right had opponent doubles for penalties. It seems unlikely you could have a hand where 2 !D would be useful as a transfer to !H so what does it mean?  Probably either 2 !D or 2 !H is a transfer to !S but which one? Once one decides which one shows spades, the other could, I suppose, show !C. Or !D. Or 5-5 in the minors. Who knows?

I generally play that when the bidding goes 1something on my left and 1NT by pard then everything goes just as it would have if it had begun (pass)-1NT. So this leaves both  (1 !H) -1NT -(Pass)- 2 !D  and  (1 !H) -1NT -(X)- 2 !D with no (useful) meaning at all. obviously not optimal, I just don't worry about it.

The solution for a regular partnership is you agree on source material. Hopefully some good or at least some decent source, call him X, has written these things down and you and your pard agree that it means whatever X says it means. Probably there is no X to handle everything but maybe you can find X, Y, and Z and use that to get agreements. No debate, these things don't come up often enough for debate, you just say "Whatever X, or Y, or Z" says". If X and Z both address the same issue but do it differently, go with X.

So a challenge: Who knows of an X source for the problem Jack describes? How about the  (1 !H) -1NT -(Pass)- 2 !D?  And other such?


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The IAC Café / Re: IAC vs ACOL - Challenge #3 Sunday May 1st
« on: April 11, 2022, 01:51:03 PM »
I cannot make the Mayday event, I am sorry about that. June maybe.

I think these matches are a good idea, I have enjoyed them and have enjoyed the team, but May 1 is out for me.

Ken

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