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jcreech:
So Jock, what are your agreements on fit-showing JS? 

It works nicely on this hand, but typically my partners expect nine cards in the two suits.  And even when I have the required nine or more, they sometimes get perturbed when I only have four in my JS suit, and five or more in their suit; so those partners will not be happy with only eight.  It may be worth the time to discuss the costs vs. benefits of being pure, or even when it is appropriate to be a bit impure. 

kenberg:
As mentioned, Donna's hands can be useful.

Now: If you had bid 2 !S, undiscussed, would I have taken it as fit showing? Well, maybe. Sort of a what the hell else situation. You could have opened 2 !S if you had six spades and, say, two hearts. And if you had only five spades why on Earth would you want to bid 2 !S unless you also had a heart fit to fall back on? So spades and a heart fit makes sense.

So maybe I could work it out.
Don't bet the house on it.

Should it require that you have four hearts to go with your five spades? Oh, I don't know. It should be a hand where 3 !H is a reasonable contract when I don't fit spades.

It's something of a magic hand. Probably it makes 4 !H more often than not, but maybe not with a lot of room to spare.

blubayou:
charlie goren presented it as a device simply to not get DROPPED  in our passed-hand one-over-one,  although  naturally  some of his examples featured super-fit 25 HCP slams.  In those days,  "The Law"  was not trumpeted across the kingdom, as now, although  no doubt the sharks knew of it  "by osmosis" before we were borne.  THIS particular variant of fit-jump  seems to me to  not be about some total-trick rules, since there doesn't seem to be a lot of comp bidding, but mainly about avoiding an ignominious  1!S + four  traveler entry 8)

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