I have avoided kickback because I do think many things need to be discussed else there will be misunderstandings. And definitely one of these things is "When have we agreed on trump?" This can come up in rkc auctions as well. So I decided I will take some simple (?) cases and leave others for later. Here it seems clear that 1
- 2
- 2
- 3
agrees on
although even here there is a need for thinking. Imagine N as 4=1=3=5. partner opens 1
, he responds 2
and now partner rebids 2
. N might well think "Hey, we have a
fit, I should let partner know". But this time they also have a
fit. So either he delays showing his
fit to bid 2
or else, after he raises 2
to 3
the auction could still continue 3
- 4
. So we must ask if raising 2
to 3
irrecoverably sets
as trump. Of course after 3
we still might be playing in NT, but have we ruled out playing in
. I doubt that there is universal agreement on this.
When I, as N, rebid 2
it was not because I thought the hand too weak to bid 2
. Marc plays it that way, but, as mentioned, BWS does not require extra values for 1
- 2
- 2
. My reason for 2
was simple, I have six of them. Todd says Lawrence recommends 2
with five, even if there is a four card major, but here, and I think Todd might agree, I want to see the hand first.
As to 1
- 2
- 2
- 3
- 4
taking up space, yes it does, but unless we want to allow for finding a 4-4
fit I am not sure it matters. Say S bids 3
, as in fact I did at the table. Marc recommends that N bid 3NT over 3
. Is S better off? I think that now S bids 4
. Unless S learned something useful with 3
- 3NT he might as well get right to it. At the table partner bid 4
over 3
. Reasonable enough, he has six of them. But still? Assuming KB, would not S still bid 4
kickback. We were not playing kickback, or at least I wasn't and I think Jim wasn't, so I, as S, bid 4
waiting over 4
, giving Jim room to cue bid 4
if he had the ce. He did, and from there 5NT gets us to 7
. But the KB auction would have uncovered the
K.
About attachments: I need to work on mine a bit. The table showing the auction looks fine on my computer but the attachment has it a bit distorted. I am going to see what I can do. Often technologies clash. On my computer, I have a Word document being brought up by Word. With the attachment, it's a Word document brought up by the the software here. These problems are usually solvable but it takes a little trial and error. Some years back Becky was working on something involving several people, each with their own computer system each using some version of Word, and the various contributions were to be sewn together into one readable document. It was quite a chore.
Here is how attachment works on my Windows desktop computer: I have a Word document, or some document, on the "computer desktop". I am in the forum, with a planned post that is open. I click on "Attachments and other options". I then click on Choose file: This opens something where I can get to a list of files on desktop. I then double click on that file's name. The name of that file then shows up in the box next to Choose File. I then click save on the forum file I am posting. This works, at least for my computer.
One of my memories: I was doing something with computers and routers and such and I thought I was going through the stipulated moves correctly. Push this, click that, disconnect this other thing, then re-connect it, and so on. Not working. Eventually I phoned for help. "When you pressed the blue button did you hold it down for ten seconds?" Well, no I hadn't. That did it.
